WCG restart delayed...until...13May 2023

doneske

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I doubt it. I don't honestly think they know what moderators are. I will never get any work until they start releasing ARP since that is what was in my profile when the project went down. The only people getting work are the ones who were getting OPN or MCM when the project went down or who have newly attached and are getting the default settings. If your profile is set to get ARP, you will start getting ARP when they are released. These have lots of data associated with them. You won't be able to change you profile to not get them. That is when the real screaming will start.
 

supdood

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I'm in the same situation as many others. I had all devices set to MCM only before the migration and haven't gotten anything since the partial restart. I'm still hoping that they can pull it together as the research does seem to be valuable (more so, to me at least, than running sims of black holes, determining some properties of asteroids, or running endless brute force math problems) and I'd rather park what little compute power I have there than other projects. With older equipment, I find the RAM and disk I/O requirements of the folding projects too heavy, and I'm not sure if volunteer computing for folding is the best use of resources now that we have AlphaFold. So that basically leaves WCG for biomedical/humanitarian research. Let's hope they can pull it together.
 

Nick Name

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No tasks here yet even though I believe I have every project enabled except ARP. I only crunch overnight though in hopes of saving a bit on the electric. Hopefully they're not too far from having things running properly.
 

Vester

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I got tasks on two days at about noon on the east coast. Nothing today for me. I have all projects checked.
 

supdood

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Seems like we get a couple of fixes every several days. Nice to not have the wrong URL message anymore and I'm now seeing no tasks for MCM instead of simply no tasks available, but it sure would be great if they could get the website device profiles talking to the clients so that we could get some of the OPN tasks. Maybe in a few more days?
 

doneske

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Wait until ARP starts running, If I remember correctly, there is about 60MB to 80MB to upload for each work unit. It seems they are possibly having bandwidth or upload/download server issues even with the smaller projects. Once a few ARP start uploading and get stuck, then others backup behind them, it really gets ugly. I'm probably not going to reattach to this project for the remainder of the year. Next year? I doubt it but ot ruling it out. I've been in conversation with the guys at Charity Engine about possibly doing something with them toward the end of the year after I relocate and get everything up and running in the new "IT Room". They haven't finalized their plans yet.
 

Vester

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There were ARP tasks sent out this morning, but I missed them due to some of the ARP files failing to download and precluding downloading of tasks.
 

Vester

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I suppose our guessing days are nearing the end. Cyclops posted at WCG:
2022-08-05 Update (workunit shortage explanation)​

Hi everyone, many volunteers have been asking about the continued drought of workunits. We have been working hard to resolve related problems, so we can restart the full scale of WCG, but, here are some challenges that we are still facing.

We have been working on several issues, and finally resolved some of them:

  • fixed the issue whereby OPNG workunits were transitioning into an incorrect state due to repeated pre-emption by higher priority processes when no CPU resources were available to the scheduler.
  • provisioned additional servers to resolve multiple issues stemming from insufficient vCPU and oversubscribed services pre-empting processes that would otherwise have completed normally.
  • fixed all OPNG batches that had transitioned to a frozen/idle state due to the above going unnoticed for too long.
While technically, we can now push out new workunits, we ran into some network problems at our data center. Unfortunately, vacation schedules of network engineers in the data center dictate that the earliest we might expect a resolution is August 8. Due to recent personnel changes the center does not have anyone on call to assist any earlier. As a result of these circumstances and the current status of the WCG infrastructure, we should be able to start sending an appreciable number of new WUs for you to crunch on or shortly after August 8th, 2022.

We will update you early next week on the status of these issues, as we also hope that once we complete this work we will be able to fully restart.

Thank you for your support, patience and understanding.

Have a great weekend!
- WCG Team
 

Nick Name

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USA team member
Wait until ARP starts running, If I remember correctly, there is about 60MB to 80MB to upload for each work unit. It seems they are possibly having bandwidth or upload/download server issues even with the smaller projects. Once a few ARP start uploading and get stuck, then others backup behind them, it really gets ugly. I'm probably not going to reattach to this project for the remainder of the year. Next year? I doubt it but ot ruling it out. I've been in conversation with the guys at Charity Engine about possibly doing something with them toward the end of the year after I relocate and get everything up and running in the new "IT Room". They haven't finalized their plans yet.
Looks like a pretty accurate assessment. :(
 

Vester

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Doneske is right. I don't believe there is enough bandwidth in Toronto for WCG.
 

Vester

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Cyclops posted in part, "Unfortunately, the distribution rate is even lower than we planned for this phase of the rollout due to a networking issue in the data center that is being currently investigated, expected to be resolved in the coming days. At least until this fix is applied, we will not be able to send WUs to everyone. We will update you when this is fixed."
 

Jason Jung

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Been lots of work for WCG over the last day or so. Even got work for Android for the first time since the transition. Lots of 503 errors trying to download work units though.
 

supdood

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I just got several OPN1--my first since the outage. I'm mostly holding off though until they get fully up and running. Moving from Universe to Denis for the time being.
 

Vester

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From my perspective, the project's work distribution and the collection of results are running OK. Stats update may be an issue.
 

Nick Name

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I have everything but ARP selected but am only getting getting MCM. I'm ok with it as long as it's just work availability and not a bug.
 
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